A London club in free-fall, trains without operators and the elusive 20th MLS team: It's the Hat Trick and Question of the Day!
1 Hard Times on the Thames
Manchester United is a very good club. This season, they’ve tossed aside inferior opponents with a startling ease. Despite that, there’s no reason Fulham should’ve lost to them 5-nil at home yesterday. The South London club looked completely unprepared to deal with the likes of Danny Welbeck, Nani and Wayne Rooney.
In recent years, Fulham have played the Red Devils well at home. Last season, they escaped with a 2-2 draw. The two years prior, they ran wild with a pair of 3-nil wins.
Yesterday though, Fulham looked confused. The forwards were starved for service, the midfield was unable to create any possession and the defense was slow and uninspired (especially with the two has-beens in John Arne Riise, formerly of Liverpool and Phillipe Senderos, formerly with Arsenal.
The Dutchman Manager Martin Jol took over this summer from Mark Hughes and, at times, it appears to be overwhelmed. His big summer signing was Striker Bryan Ruiz from Twente who has taken some time to adjust to the physicality and pace of the Premier League. The club recently crashed out of the UEFA Europa League by being indecisive about whether or not to take the tournament seriously. The club currently sit 13th in the Premier League, but with difficult fixtures with Chelsea on Boxing Day, Norwich away on New Year’s Eve and Arsenal at home on January 2nd, things could get ugly very quickly.
More on EPL battles, London strikes (perhaps not what you are thinking), and MLS expansion poll after the break
My gut reaction yesterday was to call for Jol’s head. Perhaps that was premature. But if the club doesn’t win one of those three games, it might be time to panic a bit and consider what a relegation battle might look like.
Fulham is a surprisingly popular club stateside, mostly because they’ve used a number of Americans throughout the years. During their "Great Escape" season in 2007-2008, they employed recent Sounders retiree GK Kasey Keller, two now-former Fire players in defender Carlos Bocanegra and Brian McBride, former Wiz kid Eddie Johnson and the Texan-born Clint Dempsey, who is still with the club.
Obviously it’s premature, but it’d be a shame to see them sucked into a relegation scrap.
2) Tube Troubles
If any transportation service goes on strike more frequently then the London Underground, I’ve never heard of them. Seriously, this is like a true British tradition. I spent the Summer of 2009 taking classes and interning in London and this happened while I was there. England was playing the World Cup qualifier that day and everyone was worried about how people would be able to get to Wembley. But in typical British fashion, they whined incessantly and then when the day of reckoning came…they kept calm and carried on. People would wake up an hour earlier and take three buses instead of one train. The London Underground would call in retired workers to run a limited service. And then the trains would be completely up and running again by the next day.
It’s a truly odd country. Wow, I miss that place.
3) Expansion!!!…Coming Soon!!!...somewhere
Did everyone enjoy the Montreal Impact’s…I’m sorry, Impact de Montreal’s expansion draft a couple weeks ago? I hope so, because as of now, there won’t be an expansion draft next year for a very simple reason: no one has any idea who MLS’ 20th team will be.
Every year since 2007, MLS has added at least one team. For the most part, they’ve been no brainers. While Toronto’s (2007) on-field play and management has been abysmal at best, the club has been incredibly popular. San Jose (2008) was a move to correct the awful Houston 1836…I mean Houston Dynamo (2006) move. Seattle (2009), Philadelphia (2010) and Portland (2011) have all been slam-dunks. Vancouver (2011) may take more time, but will most likely be successful once they get a new stadium. Montreal (2012) was very popular as a second-tier club and likely will succeed in MLS.
But team #20 is difficult because, quite frankly, there are no slam dunks left. MLS commissioner is very much in favor of a 2nd New York City team, a move that makes zero sense to me. I’d rather see a second Portland franchise before a second NYC one. The rest of the options have some promise, but all have drawbacks as well. Miami has already failed once as a MLS franchise, Detroit could work but isn’t particularly strong. Same for Atlanta, Minneapolis, Indianapolis Las Vegas, Orlando, etc. My current city St. Louis doesn’t have the funding despite a strong soccer culture (I’ll write more in depth about this later).
The latest two cities to enter the mix are Sacramento and San Antonio. Sacramento is definitely a long-shot, but having a number of California teams create a rivalry has some intrigue. The San Antonio Scorpions will begin playing in the NASL in 2012. This should be a good test as to whether they have a soccer culture that could work for MLS.
So the question for today is what do you think? Do any of those cities make sense for team #20? Or is there a city I failed to mention? Vote in the poll and leave your comments below. I’ll be responding throughout the day.
25 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Sacramento has more going for it than meets the eye. The Kings might move and placing a team in Sacramento could heat up a rivalry with San Jose. Few amount of teams and close proximity certainly hasn’t hurt Seattle/Portland
Also, here is a must-read piece on the U.S. Open Cup bidding process:
http://thecup.us/dollars-cents-the-controversial-us-open-cup-hosting-bid-process-explained/
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
by Tweed Thornton on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM CST reply actions
the sacramento group has no money
and that area has been demolished by the real estate crash… you combine that with California voters hating subsidies for sports teams and you can kiss goodbye any hope of getting government help for a SSS.
That being said, Sacramento would be a prime market for MLS20 if the Kings left. They support the hell out of the MLB AAA Rivercats who have a beautiful riverside stadium in downtown. They often outdraw their parent club, my Oakland A’s.
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Dec 22, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
That’s shame about the Sacramento group not having the cash. The metro areas of Portland and Sacramento are different by a matter of 100,000 or so people and Portland doesn’t have San Fran, Oakland, and San Jose not too far away. I’d like to see them get a team. Maybe they’ll get someone with deep pockets to head it up in the end.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
by Tweed Thornton on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
The Portland comparison is a valid one. The only thing I’d add is that Portland has more of a soccer history. The question would be how Sacramento would react to a team and there’s no real way to test it. At least with San Antonio, we’ll see how the NASL team does and have some idea of what their support is like.
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
by James Coston on Dec 22, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
For better or for worse, it seems highly unlikely that team 20 will be anywhere other than NYC. There are people on the MLS payroll who are working on getting a second NY franchise. I don’t think Garber is stubborn or stupid, but he’s definitely intentionally pursuing this. Something dramatic could happen, but I’ll be surprised. After NY, I think Florida has a shot since they have a couple lower division sides and a little buzz, despite past MLS failings. California has enough struggling franchises in SJ and Chivas for Sacramento to be more than a rumor. The others have some fans calling for it, but I think are ultimately just rumors.
Another possibility - and this is just pure speculation - is that, once MLS hits 20 teams, ownership groups that struggle to transition to MLS 2.0 (like the aforementioned California sides) could make way for relocations to interested cities and ownership groups.
Oops
Didn’t mean to strike out that one line.
Also, on a different note, towns like Portland are awesome now but couldn’t probably couldn’t support a second side. They are small markets in terms of population and thrive because of tradition and dedication, but that history wouldn’t exist for a new team. If everyone in Portland is crazy about the Timbers, why would they decamp to a new side? Also, Vancouver had one of the top attendance averages in MLS, despite their poor play.
Hey Mateu,
The second Portland team remark was meant as tongue-in-cheek. I’m just really not a fan of NYC 2/Cosmos/whatever the plan is
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
by James Coston on Dec 22, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
I hear you on Portland… I guess I took it a little to seriously. I’m also not a fan of NYC2 and part of the reason is what I said about Portland: they have more history, support and tradition in their small market than RBNY has in its gigantic one (not to knock on NY, they have a great stadium and a decent following). So how do we expect a new franchise to flourish in the city? On the other hand, there are at least enough people who could potentially follow a second NY team.
Not to mention if the NY2 hires the right people...
i.e. not an incompetent front office person (Soler) and not an incompetent coach (Backe), they could possibly have a bigger fan base than NYRB. Not right away of course, but give them a few years and it could happen. Given the right owner, if they stole a couple of big DP’s, they could build off that.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
Tradition. Honor. Passion.
by Ryan Sealock on Dec 23, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
Even if they aren't technically called the Cosmos...
if they can market and make people believe they are the Cosmos re-incarnated, albeit with a different name, then I think they could crush the NYRB.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
Tradition. Honor. Passion.
by Ryan Sealock on Dec 23, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
but does the NY2 Group have any money?
they are Saudi but I’ve seen no evidence they have oil money backing them… they are just a “sports company.”
Garber and MLS brass love getting superstar DP’s into MLS, but they all want to play in LA and NY… so NY2 would help them with that.
I’m fine with it if the ownership group had the cash to build an SSS. But I don’t think they do. MLS20 at this point is all about how much money the ownership group has and whether the city they play in can pony up some subsidies or gov. bonds to help build a SSS.
I like what I’ve seen from Orlando City so I voted for them in the poll but I’m not sure if they have the money it would take to afford MLS expansion fee plus SSS construction.
Win or lose, we'll always be there for you.
by johnjahafanclub on Dec 22, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Ryan posted a fanshot on this
Sean Johnson gets called up to the USMNT January camp. The goalies are him, Bill Hamid and Nick Rimando. Rimando has the seniority and Hamid has had the callups under Klinsmann so far but this is a great chance for Johnson to move up the USMNT ladder.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
by Tweed Thornton on Dec 22, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions
The support for Florida in the poll has surprised me a bit. In my opinion, if either Miami or Orlando can avoid some of the issues that plagued the Fusion and the Mutiny, it could work. If it’s Miami, maybe move Chivas USA there and re-brand them. Thanks so much to everyone who has voted/commented.
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
Speaking of English soccer
Andy Sandell anyone?
If anything he has some great quotes about the Fire’s Open Tryouts last week:
http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/sport/9434950.CHIPPENHAM_TOWN__Sandell_s_playing_with_Fire/
"When I went along, I didn’t realise that it was open trials to start with and to be honest, I’ve seen better Sunday League players than some of the ones I saw on the first day but it got a lot better after that," said Sandell.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
bahahahaha that is great. Brutally honest guy, we could use someone like that in the squad. The closest one we have to that personality-wise would probably be Gargan.
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
by James Coston on Dec 22, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Top 5 MLS Transactions of the Year?
Not one of them Dominic Oduro to the Fire.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
“Step one: Pick up an experienced and clever playmaker from Argentina.
Step two: Plug him into your midfield.
Step three: Let him pull the strings.
Step four: Watch the magic unfold and enjoy."
You could apply that to Grazzini as well.
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
by James Coston on Dec 22, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
One vote for other. Interesting. If that person sees this, please feel free to mention what city you’re referring to.
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
What, no choice for a place in Iowa James??
All joking aside, I voted for Atlanta actually. I think a team could be very successful there, obviously there just isn’t a strong group. The Atlanta Beat got a SSS (yes, if a WPS team can do it, I think an MLS team could). And of course we have the Atlanta Silverbacks.
While other good options exist as well, if the right group came along, I think it could be a very good thing. I am not as versed in potential Atlanta owners, but for some reason I think Arthur Blank would be great (that is of course if he was interested in a team even). Just my two cents.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
Tradition. Honor. Passion.
My only hesitation on Atlanta is they just lost a hockey franchise AGAIN. It’s an odd market. As with any city really, it all comes down to the ownership group. Whoever is the most committed to bringing soccer in should get the next team. Atlanta does face challenges from the NFL, NBA, MLB, and the NCAA. Tough market to work into.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
by Tweed Thornton on Dec 22, 2011 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
The Iowa soccer Barnstormers???
--
James Coston
December 2010 Graduate - Strategic Communication (Emphasis in Public Relations)
University of Missouri - School of Journalism
"And that hit me. I was like, I've got to do the right thing. I can't tell God to wait on me." - Chase Hilgenbrinck
by James Coston on Dec 22, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Now that's the ticket!
They would of course be captained by none other than Kurt Warner, former Barnstormer.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
Tradition. Honor. Passion.
by Ryan Sealock on Dec 22, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
by Tweed Thornton on Dec 23, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
I love that name...
it essentially writes itself. Bill Paxton for team president?
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History
Tradition. Honor. Passion.
by Ryan Sealock on Dec 23, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
MLS.com writer Greg Seltzer has a list of the top 5 players in the USMNT’s pool that are being overlooked right now. Former Fire player Chris Rolfe tops the list: http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/12/22/five-guys-deserve-belated-us-january-camp-invite
Upon initial sight of the call-up list, the first name that popped into my head as being conspicuously absent belongs to the Aalborg BK attack engine. Rolfe’s had a good season, displaying big-play capabilities in Denmark, and the camp wing options are a little thin.
To that end, it’s doubtful Houston’s Brad Davis couldn’t also be along. Upon arrival, he’d be the best restart man, if not also the best crosser.
Hot Time In Old Town SB Nation's blog for Chicago Fire, Soccer, & Chicago History

by 













