Let's talk about Center Backs
Yesterday's Fire news was firmly in the "not good" category. In case you haven't heard, Josip Mikulic is not with the team as he attends to personal issues. He may never return to the club. Combine this with Yamith Cuesta suddenly being gone (loan ended; Fire opted not to buy) the back line is suddenly very, very thin. Both players have been scrubbed from the team's roster page.
One of the major positives of last season's squad was the depth at CB. Four brand new players proved they could play the position with some level of skill. Cory Gibbs cemented himself at the top of the group while Mikulic, Cuesta and eventually Jalil Anibaba all took turns admirably manning the space in front of goalkeepers Sean Johnson and Jon Conway. All four defenders paired together during the season as your center backs tend to do. All that positivity is mostly gone.
Gibbs, while still an excellent player, has been injury prone his entire career. I like to describe him as being held together by duct tape and twine. Cory survives in MLS due to his excellent defensive technical ability and superior football IQ. He does not excel in raw physicality like many of his counterparts. Thus every season you can count on Cory missing time. You will take that when it comes to Gibbs since the rest of the package is so incredibly valuable. Yet you plan ahead and try to pair or back him up with a quality veteran.
For a team that has been "buzzing" (their word not mine) about being able to compete for all three trophies this is a major blow. You don't compete for the Supporters' Shield, US Open Cup and the MLS Cup without having three capable CB's on your roster. This just does not happen. The Fire have a bit of problem on their hands.
So what happens now? As things stand the presumed starting pair is intact with Gibbs and Anibaba. After that things get very, very ugly with rookie Austin Berry and the previously assumed surplus to requirements Kwame Watson-Siriboe serving as the primary backups. Kwame was sent on loan to FC Tampa Bay (now Rowdies, congrats on getting the old NASL trademark back guys) after not seeing any time last season.
For anyone who remembers the few appearances Kwame had in 2010, this was most assuredly a good thing. Kwame was big, raw, foul prone, and unable to handle the ball with any confidence at his feet. How much of that is gone remains to be seen as camp progresses. The reports out of Tampa Bay were positive at times but this really means nothing as the jump between Tampa and Chicago is a rather large one in terms of overall talent of the teams being played against. His overall level of experience is still very low and as I wrote previously I'd prefer he be cut unless he shows significant improvement.
Austin Berry is the major wild card here. As a top 10 SuperDraft selection you sort of figure he is going to be able to start several games and be a capable squad player immediately. Yet the possible pairing of Berry and Anibaba doesn't infuse me with confidence. While it could be a great pairing down the road this doesn't mean that they are the right potential pairing for any length of time this season.
The other option that is on everyone's mind is the return of one Wilman Conde to the Fire. Personally Wilman can go to NY and lose forever there. His on field behavior during the 2010 season was abominable and I'd rather not give him the chance to repeat it or poison this particular locker room. I'd rather have the nice bit of allocation dollars (rumored to be around $175,000) to help fill a suddenly empty international slot instead of potentially wasting it on Conde. If we are all being completely honest here this team still needs another solid midfielder or striker to help propel the offense (yes I'm worried about Dom).
Some members of the Hot Time in Old Town staff have begun the drum beats for Carlos Bocanegra to return to his first professional club. He would be the ideal option of course (Gibbs and Boca start while mentoring the kids). Yet somehow I don't see him quite ready to leave Rangers unless the money is right. Which really is the only factor as Rangers is no longer part of Europa League. Who knows how much the current Fire ownership values Carlos Bocanegra and what he would bring to this franchise this season. I'm not overly optimistic regarding a Boca return during the 2012 season.
The Fire are probably stuck with Berry manning the primary backup position while Kwame holds down his roster spot for another year. Supplemental Draft selection Justin Chavez is the only other publicly known center back in Chicago Fire preseason right now. College soccer expert Joe Mauceri ranked Chavez much higher than where he was drafted overall but 99% of the players drafted around where Chavez was selected don't make the team let alone contribute significant minutes. The early outlook is the organization made a poor decision in not purchasing Cuesta's rights permanently. Based on performance alone it is odd. Perhaps the team will be able to make a trade and grab a capable veteran MLS defender. I still expect the first choice Fire back line to be very good. The depth at each position is now suspect.
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I’m confused on the Cuesta situation; I thought Klopas said they were trying to bring him back but the details were complicated. Did he actually say that they decided not to purchase his contract? Who owns his contract, anyways?
I’m going to put a disclaimer up right now – this is me, using my crappy memory, without aid from a gazillion internet searches.
If I recall, Cuesta was one of the first wave of Colombians; he was brought into Chivas USA as a long-term loan. I’m guessing the buyout clause on that was pretty hefty – you loan a 19-year-old for three years, you figure if they want him after that time he must be damned good, or something.
Turns out that the 22-year-old Cuesta didn’t become a figure in world football, but is instead a borderline starter in MLS. So the Fire, now holding the business end of the deal, pass on paying the balloon payment from the original deal, and his rights revert to his old club in Colombia.
The question now is, “Why didn’t we buy his rights?” We can’t know unless Team Frank tells us. Maybe the Colombian club thought this was a chance to get some folding money out of the Americanos and the Fire balked. Maybe Cuesta hates Chicago but can’t say so diplomatically. Maybe we offered a bag of balls for Yamith, knowing that Gibbs, Anibaba, Mikulic and Berry were going to be our four centerbacks anyway.
If I were to point fingers for this mess, I’d point them at Mikulic right now. A little communication goes a long way when you’re fucking over your employer. There’s no excuse for this family situation to come as such a surprise to the front office.
In re: Charlie Blackmouth – helllllllll yes. Oh my goodness yes. Let’s spend some oatmeal money, y’all!
Charlie Blackmouth
Yes, he’d be a great asset for the first team and the Club as a whole.
Should he return, we’d have deep proven leadership and 3 other-club captains (Pavel, Boca, new guy Robayo) … and Pavel and Boca have led their respective Nats out as well.
This is how Clubs are built. Veterans modelling the right behaviors on & off the field.
The rest of the team has been built so well, time to splurge a little. I agree. The only thing to worry about is having a situation where Bocanegra is making more money than everyone else.
That’s a famous dynamic teams typically like to avoid. I think this team is mature enough to deal with that kind of situation. As you mention, there is a wealth of captain and veteran experience on the club. They should also understand the extra value Bocanegra brings to club having been a former member during much brighter times.
Klopas has talked about making the Fire what they use to be. Bocanegra certainly is a physical and mental representation of that.
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by Tweed Thornton on Jan 27, 2012 8:30 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Don’t have much to add to this other saying yes.
I would disagree with the sentiment that Cuesta is a borderline MLS starter though. He and Gibbs worked very well together this year. Their shutout steak in late May/early June will be one of the longest in team history for quite awhile. Cuesta is younger than Anibaba and Berry. He also knows how to work with Sean Johnson and Frank Klopas’ schemes better than Austin Berry at this point. That total package would have been quite valuable for a 2012 return.
One or more of the potential wrenches you mention for Cuesta and Mikulic are at play here. I’m less concerned with how Klopas and company were dealt a curveball than how I am concerned they will hit it.
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by Tweed Thornton on Jan 27, 2012 8:22 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
physicality
Cuesta’s problem was always his physicality at CB … working with Coach Klopas would have improved his play but he never seemed able to play “big” … and then you add in the contract (and $$ ??) issues and it doesn’t look good.
I ripped Frank...
For drafting Berry because it seemed like we had too many CBs on the roster. It looks like Frank knew something was up. I’m about ready to give up criticizing his personnel moves.
Is there any sign Boca would come back? Is his contract with Rangers up this summer? I can see bringing him back as long as he doesn’t need a seven figure salary or transfer fee.
Interesting thoughts here:
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=25066660#post25066660
Rangers paid $600k for Boca last year. If we offer Rangers about that much and then give Boca a 3 year, 2 m contract, that’s about the point that we have to think about it seriously.
too soon for Bocanegra to come back to MLS
in my opinion
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by johnjahafanclub on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
CB staying @ Rangers
CB just signed 3 year deal … He’s in his last WC cycle and professionally can’t take the chance of losing his MNT spot by moving back to MLS – especially since Klinsi wants players in the most competative environment possible … so for CB this year it’s stay at Rangers for the $$$ and MNT or come back to Chicago for the $$ or $$$ … I’m sure he’s staying @ Rangers.
People are sure quick to hit the panic button. We have 2 starting CB’s. The roof is not caving in. We also have a top draft pick that is likely starter material already. Kwame will be an adequate fill in if 2 of the 3 CB’s can’t go a certain day. Josip was injured, a lot, last year. I liked him but it’s not a great loss given our depth, and Cuesta was a fringe guy headed into this year anyways. We had a huge logjam at CB, I like the mix of young and old that we have now.
I like the point you made...
this CB issue certainly does concern me, but I am in your camp that it could be worse than some of the “sky is falling views”. We certainly need to seriously address the situation, but it would be much worse if we only had 1 capable CB, let alone 2, on the roster.
I would love to see KWS step up and perform. AT this point, we need to see if he has progressed far enough on his loan deal to be of use to us, or whether we need to cut ties. This is vital because it also affects Anibaba potentially. Obviously, right now Jalil is one of our starting CB’s (as he should be, it’s the position he is best at). However, if injuries happen at RB (of which we are not exactly deep there, especially with Kinney’s future up in the air) I have seen talk of Logan sliding in to RB. Although he can play there, I would rather have Jalil slide back over out of position than have Logan playing out of position.
It’s for this reason that I think we either need to be set on KWS as a quality back up or go get another CB in. Obviously, Frank has all the info. and holds the cards. I am confident the issue will be addressed properly. I just want to see our best CB combo in Jalil and Cory when they are healthy. If Jalil has to move out of position, it would be better than Logan having to do it, but certainly not ideal.
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by Ryan Sealock on Jan 27, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that there’s no need to panic, though I think Cuesta was/could be much more than a fringe guy. I’m more disappointed that our excess center backs just disappeared rather than being dealt to bring other pieces to the team.
I agree about Cuesta. He had potential to be more than a fringe guy. I think that CB is the most important position on the pitch and it felt good to have depth there. I’m a little disappointed that Cuesta and Mikulic are gone, but I think we will be fine.
by Mark O'Rourke on Jan 27, 2012 11:22 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Josip was injured, a lot, last year
That is a myth. Mikulic was healthy for almost every game last year. I think Maric’s health issues rubbed off onto his fellow Croatian in people’s minds when Mikulic did have problems early on. Mikulic was a healthy option down the stretch.
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by Tweed Thornton on Jan 27, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Um, not a myth. He started 12 games. Got injured in April with a quadricep. Then again in May with a clavicle fracture, stayed on the injury report until late June. Then again he got injured in the US Open Cup final forcing us to burn a sub and bring in Anibaba. That’s called being injury prone, not mythology.
You said he was injured a lot last year. That’s not true.
I agree that he is injury prone. There is a difference between the two statements.
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by Tweed Thornton on Jan 28, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
If we have an injury at RB I expect to see Logan slide in, since he is going to have a hard time finding playing time ahead of Robayo, Grazzini, Pardo, Nyarko and Pappa. We finally have legit DM’s who are, I think without argument, better then Logan. That depth at midfield will make Logan a guy who gets slotted into spots that he’s not accustomed to.
Logan Pause for sure.
Daniel Paladini is best used as a DM.
Robayo can play there but I’ll think he’ll be best used as a CM/attacking mid. It’s a wait and see process.
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by Tweed Thornton on Jan 27, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
I think milicz was talking about Robayo when he said there were 2 solid DM ahead of Pause. I wasn’t sure cause I’m not very familiar with what type of midfielder Robayo is.
I don’t know how I forgot about Paladini. You’re right that he’s better used as a DM. I’d prefer him over Pause because he tries to push the ball up field. Pause tends to pass to the side or back to the defence
by Mark O'Rourke on Jan 27, 2012 11:12 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions

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