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Wilman Conde’s Rights Traded to New York Red Bulls

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The Chicago Fire Soccer Club announced Monday the club has traded the MLS right of first refusal on defender Wilman Conde to the New York Red Bulls in exchange for allocation money. If this kind of deal doesn't make sense to you, be sure to give this story a read. More after the break.

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New York has agreed to personal terms with the out-of-contract Conde and he will be added to the Red Bull's roster pending receipt of his International Transfer Certificate. He will join NYRB's preseason in Cancun. That's not a joke. Per league and team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed. We've talked about this deal for awhile and let's just have this repeated.

It better have been a lot of allocation money and the allocation money better be spent. Otherwise the team traded Wilman Conde for nothing.

For those wondering how the Fire could have used Wilman Conde given the recent changes to the team's center back situation, Frank Klopas is not worried "The club is pleased with the talent we've assembled," said Fire head coach Frank Klopas. "We reviewed the situation and wanted to support Wilman's return to MLS. The allocation money we received in return will help us continue to build our team."

Having joined the Fire in 2007, the Colombian defender tallied four goals and four assists across 77 matches before signing with Mexican side Club Atlas on a free transfer in January 2011.

Having protected Conde during the 2010 MLS Expansion Draft, the Fire held the MLS right of first refusal on the former Fire defender.

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I’m calling it – Rio Ferdinand to the Fire this summer. Thanks for the allocation money, suckers New York!

In all seriousness though, I do hope the allocation money is well spent, because I would’ve welcomed Conde back. He was one of my favorite players at the time. But I missed out on the majority of the disaster that was the 2010 season, and it sounds like a lot of people are not happy with him.

Also, he looks like the Gieco Caveman. Playing centerback is so easy a caveman can do it.

by Mark O'Rourke on Jan 30, 2012 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

Also when it comes to Conde...

I hear people say that he’s too old. The dude is only 29. Sure, he’s no spring chicken, but at 29 he still has some years left in him.

by Mark O'Rourke on Jan 30, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Don’t think he is worth the international slot and salary.

The Fire could use one more veteran center back. Some one to fill in some minutes, provide okay play if Gibbs gets sidelined for a little bit or Anibaba and Berry show inexperience but they don’t need someone who would merit massive minutes like Conde. You bring on a player of Conde’s salary, you have to play him every game he is healthy. He’s too risky to do that IMO.

Now a player like Rio or Bocanegra…. that’s a different story. Depends on what we are talking about and if the marketing can be done correctly.

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by Tweed Thornton on Jan 30, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

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… so I’m the guy who started the thread there (cited elsewhere on HTITOT) calling for Boca to return. Suffice to say I think we should make a play here; hard to imagine a better fit between the things the club needs on the field, the things the club needs off the field, and lots of fresh, oaty cash.

by Sean Spence on Jan 30, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions  

You do realize...

…Boca would have to go through the allocation process and we’d have to give up something valuable to move up in the order. It’s not just “making a play” its making 2-3 plays to get him and losing something in the process.

Unless we signed him as a DP and I don’t think anyone here thinks thats a good idea when we need a consistent striker more…

by FIREnation on Jan 31, 2012 7:16 AM CST up reply actions  

better the $$

better the $$ for Conde to be used to find a talented, veteran CB who is at the point in his career that he can compete for the 1st eleven and yet be professional enough to sit at the 3rd (or 4th) spot in the CB depth chart.

by CoachTony on Jan 30, 2012 10:29 PM CST reply actions  

Overall I am a fan of this move...

with the shock news about Mikulic and Cuesta last week, it made it seem like maybe we should keep Conde. No one really wanted him before those two left. Plus, it remains to be seen if he is anywhere near his 2009 level. As CoachTony said, I think we can find a better value for the money than bring Conde back. I appreciate what he did for the club but I think it’s good we are heading in another direction.

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by Ryan Sealock on Jan 30, 2012 10:41 PM CST reply actions  

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