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Hat Trick and QOTD Time...

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This hat trick/QOTD is going to be a bit more succinct than I normally am (but it will probably still end up a bit longer than I intend it to be), but I found a few nuggets to share with everyone for my Wednesday piece. I am shooting for a longer Fire related piece for next Wednesday. It's been a while since I have had a lengthy Fire story, but with the draft coming up and the always interesting offseason transfer window, business should start to pick up soon. Also look for lots of other Fire related stuff shortly as part of us here at HTIOT will be at the MLS Superdraft and will have lots of good info. for us all. Without further ado, follow me after the break for the hat trick and a good QOTD...

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1. We all know Dominic Oduro had quite the 2011 campaign. Take a look at this interesting article of stats from Opta, which shows one of the reasons why he was so dangerous in 2011. "King of the Counter Attack". That sounds like a pretty good title for Oduro to possess. Also, despite ups and downs for Diego Chaves, did you know he was in the top 5 for finishers in "big chance" situations? Despite inconsistent playing time, Diego knows how to finish when given the chance.

2. As of this writing (literally taking place right now), USMNT legend Landon Donovan has been chosen to start in his first appearance back for Everton on a short loan. They square off vs. Bolton, with the match being on foxsoccer.tv (online subscription service). MLSsoccer.com has a little blurb on this, as well as a bit on Clint Dempsey possibly moving to a bigger club in hopes of playing in the UEFA Champions League once his Fulham contract runs out.

3. The David Beckham saga continues to have twists and turns. At one point it was all but inevitable that Beckham would join PSG. Now, that deal has fallen through, and although a new deal with the Galaxy is not a done deal, the Galaxy believe they are getting closer. I don't get caught up in the Beckham hype, so the real reason for me including this in the hat trick is because I found an interesting blurb in this article. It mentions at one point that an added challenge of getting a Beckham deal done is that "We have the added complication that David has the right to purchase a franchise in this league". That certainly jumped out at me upon reading it. The article doesn't really go into extra detail, but it is certainly different from lots of other star MLS contracts that I have heard/read about. I can't remember seeing a stipulation mentioned like this for any player's contract in the past.

This brings up an interesting point. Is Beckham playing hardball, saying that he would consider resigning only if he had a chance to purchase a team in the league? This would certainly make sense with his explanation for the PSG deal falling through: family reasons. Many reports have said that his family/wife, as well as David, like LA and want to stay there. If he likes the league enough, it does make sense that he may want to be an owner or part owner some day. He can stay more involved with the game this way, and it's certainly cheaper to get a team going here than in England or most other parts of the world. A name like his could also do wonders for the league approving a 20th MLS team, and possibly beyond that heading into the future.

Frankly, I can't see many other scenarios other than Beckham asking for this stipulation. It doesn't seem likely that the Galaxy would offer this outright to him for no reason. The only thing I can think of is that the Galaxy may know of other serious offers, so they are trying to offer something unique that would put them out in front in the race to sign him.

This certainly makes for an interesting point of debate. Does this type of contract start to pop up more and more as big stars come to the MLS in the later parts of their careers? Obviously a club like the Galaxy wouldn't look to sell the franchise to a player unless the cash was right. What about a smaller club? Is it feasible that a player could join a club not named NY or LA and possibly buy the club when their playing days are done? It would certainly help increase visibility for the club/MLS in general to have famous owners that are also former players. And it would help guarantee future expansion of the MLS, although I think at this point we can all agree that future expansion is likely anyway. Have rich owners with big names recognizable all over the world certainly can't hurt. The main sticking point is to find the right group if they player doesn't want to get the club going by himself outright. However, if you have an international star with the money to get a club going, that could really push an affiliated ownership group over the edge to get an MLS franchise when they otherwise wouldn't quite be able to themselves. Basically, groups need the player's name and money, but the player needs the group to help with funding. I would also imagine other investment groups (that would be on a non ownership basis) might be a bit more willing to open their wallets and join forces to get a team and stadium lined up if they get to work with a famous icon.

As our very own James Coston pointed out in a recent article, there are plenty of cities that could be very good to place an MLS franchise in. In the case of St. Louis, they have been very close to getting one, but lack either the financial clout needed or a soccer specific stadium (SSS) plan. Or both. I think retired soccer greats helping out could help some of these franchises to become a reality. Of course everyone involved needs to make sure the situations are right, as the MLS does now in regards to approving new franchises, to make sure existing clubs and the league as a whole doesn't suffer. In the end, if done right, I think the benefits could outweigh the negatives. I would imagine fans of Beckham, for example, might watch and follow the MLS when they otherwise wouldn't just to support the team he owns. And it's all about expanding the league out and getting bigger and better. Certainly some good food for thought. Imagine what it would be like if a former Fire icon could possibly own the team some day after he retires?

Question of the Day

I was having a debate about this with some friends the other night, which I think makes for a good poll question. Now that Donovan is back in the EPL for a short time, we got to talking about who is considered the best ever US soccer player. Landon Donovan or Clint Dempsey? Obviously there are other names to throw in the hat too, but the crux of our discussion came down to this: Landon is obviously more successful at the MLS level because he has been there longer. Clint plays in the world's best league, and is the most successful American ever in terms of English soccer and scoring prowess. He just surpassed Brian McBride for most goals by an American in the Premier League. So Clint clearly has the foreign pedigree. In terms of the USMNT scene, we gave the edge to Landon. He has had more big goals and we felt contributed more to his MLS team and also his National team. Overall, most of us in our group decided that Landon Donovan was the best American soccer player ever. So what say you?

Poll
If you had to pick who is the best American soccer player ever, who would you say?
A. Landon Donovan
11 votes
B. Clint Dempsey
14 votes
C. Brian McBride
6 votes
D. Kasey Keller
1 votes
E. Other (leave your pick in the comments below)
4 votes

36 votes | Poll has closed

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Best US player ever

I’d pick Brad Friedel. He’s 41 and still going strong in the EPL. Best field player ever would likely have to be Donovan, but Dempsey is right there with him and proving himself in the EPL for several years now. Thomas Dooley and Tab Ramos come to mind as players of yesteryear that were great. I never rated Claudio Reyna, though.

by Fuegofan on Jan 4, 2012 5:09 PM CST reply actions  

Good point on Friedel...

I thought of him as well as quite a few other names. I didn’t want to make the poll too long so I just picked some of the bigger names. I definitely can agree with an argument for Friedel though.

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by Ryan Sealock on Jan 4, 2012 6:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Never Rated Reyna?

Thanks for letting me know that your opinions can just be dismissed in the future.

Greatest US field player is Reyna and it isn’t even close (Dempsey is closing in but needs a Champs league run of some kind).

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Wolfsburg
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Man City

Multiple year stints at all, played for Rangers when they still mattered, has yet to be replaced in the national team set up. I know many people didn’t see him at his best but if you caught him during his Man City stint you saw a great player getting it done at a high level even while dealing with injuries and getting old.

I’m firmly in the Friedel camp as best US goal tender but Keller could be argued. Still no Friedel or Reyna on this poll is nuts.

by Gregg Mixdorf on Jan 5, 2012 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Good argument for Reyna too...

I almost included him, but again didn’t want the poll to have 20 options (which it could have had I added everyone I thought of). That’s why I told people to leave their picks in the comments. Reyna did play all over the place though.

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by Ryan Sealock on Jan 5, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I miss that 94 team a lot too...

very good times. The 94 World Cup is when I really started to get into and follow the USMNT. I was much younger so I didn’t understand and appreciate the game like I do now. I wish some of those guys could be playing nowadays.

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by Ryan Sealock on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Beckham's franchise option

I’ve known about that for maybe a year. The story goes, he has the right to buy an expansion franchise (not the Galaxy) for $10 million. Obviously, an expansion franchise is worth a lot more than $10 million right now, so it makes sense that he would exercise that option even if he immediately sold the new team.

by iron81 on Jan 4, 2012 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

I think this option was part of his original MLS contract. I’ve heard about it before, but I can’t remember when exactly. If it’s really a fixed option to buy a franchise at $10 million, he’d be nuts not to take it, either to become an owner on the cheap or to cash in on it; he could easily make four or five times that much selling the franchise and still offer a price below the going official MLS rate.

by Mateu on Jan 5, 2012 4:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I was not aware of his original option for this...

and that is very interesting to think about. Since his original contract (which is now up) included the purchase option, a little Google search helped me find out more:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/7933407.stm

The question is whether the option in the original contract can still vest at the end of his career, or only if it vests if he retires at the end of that contract. I have to think it only vests if he retires at the end of the current contract. Why else would the Galaxy have to include that option in a new contract if he already has the choice when he retires? He doesn’t need two MLS teams. I do agree with you guys though, $10 to get a franchise going, whether he sticks with it or not, is an INSANELY good deal.

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by Ryan Sealock on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Best American Soccer Play EVER....

Legend has it that Billy Gonsalves was probably the best American ever. He played in the 20s and 30s, played in Boston, St.Louis and for the Chicago Manhattans. European teams wanted him, but he didn’t want to go.
Willie Maley, the legendary manager of Celtic for 43 years, called him the greatest player he had ever seen.

by StlSteve on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 AM CST reply actions  

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